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Announced end dates for video models, and which apps still carry them

Wan 3.0 against Seedance 2.5, where each one's own paperwork stops

Wan 3.0's publisher ships the weights under a stated licence with download commands on the model card, so a later withdrawal cannot reach a copy already held. Seedance 2.5 has no such release: it is carried as a licensed line inside other companies' plans, and the register's share count puts it first in the material read. From 5 source pages, read 2026-09-12 to 2026-10-26; no maker pays to be listed.

Three ways a model reaches a productionA family can arrive as published weights, as a hosted endpoint, or as a licensed line inside somebody else's plan. What a production holds afterwards differs: weights run as long as the hardware does, an endpoint runs as long as the service does, and a plan line runs as long as the seller lists it.Published weightsA model card with a licence anddownload commands.A copyRuns as long as thehardware doesA hosted endpointA service that bills by therequest or the second.A callRuns while the service isofferedA licensed plan lineA model named inside somebodyelse's menu.An entryRuns while the sellerlists itWhat a production is left holdingThree routes, three different endings
Fig. 1 Only the first of the three survives a vendor's decision, and it moves the cost from a licence to a machine.

1What this register already holds

What the publisher of the weights prints, and four rows this register reads for how the same families are sold and kept by a pipeline.

  • Models published
    Wan2.2-T2V-A14B, Wan2.2-I2V-A14B, Wan2.2-TI2V-5B, Wan2.2-S2V-14B and the Animate variantsweights rather than an endpointWan-AI, repository listing / recorded 2026-09-22
  • Licence stated on the weights
    Apache 2.0Wan-AI, Wan2.2-T2V-A14B model card / recorded 2026-09-22
  • How a copy is obtained
    Download commands for the weights are printed on the model cardWan-AI, Wan2.2-T2V-A14B model card / recorded 2026-09-22
  • Models carried
    Wan 3.0 at 480P, 720P and 1080P; Seedance 2.5 Pro, Lite and 480P; Seedance 2.0, Fast and 480P; MiniMax H3 and H3 Fast; Kling 4.0 and Kling 4.0 Flashnamed per tierSceneMixer, price list / since 2026-10-15 / checked 2026-10-26
  • Default tier
    Wan 3.0 at 480Pwhat a new project getsSceneMixer, price list / recorded 2026-09-12
  • Finished work when a tier goes
    Sheets and segments already made keep their pixels and their record of which tier made them; versions are kept, and nothing is regenerated or charged by a fallbackSceneMixer, withdrawn tier guide / recorded 2026-10-13
  • Temporary unavailability
    A tier that is temporarily unavailable is hidden from the tier list rather than offered and refusedSceneMixer, withdrawn tier guide / recorded 2026-10-13
  • Models carried
    Wan 2.5, Kling 2.5 Turbo Pro, Veo 3 and Ovi, each priced individuallypriced per model rather than per planfal, pricing page / recorded 2026-09-22

2One of these can be withdrawn and the other cannot

The Wan-AI entry in this register is the odd one out and the most useful row in it: the weights are published, under a stated licence, with the download commands printed on the model card. A withdrawal can stop a hosted endpoint, and it cannot reach a copy that is already held.

That is a different risk shape from every other entry here. A licensed line inside somebody else's plan ends when that company's page changes; a released weight ends when the hardware it runs on ends. For a production weighing two families, this is the first question and it has nothing to do with the price of either.

3What the apps publish about Seedance 2.5

Seedance 2.5 has no comparable release. It appears as a licensed line in other companies' menus: two variants at PixVerse, three at Luma, three at Runway, and in the list fal prices model by model. None of those pages states who would tell a subscriber if the line were withdrawn, and none commits to carrying it for a period.

Being carried by four apps is a kind of durability that a single vendor's plan does not have — if one removes it, three lists still name it — but it is a market fact rather than a commitment. This register records the naming, and records the absence of the commitment separately, because the two are often read as one thing.

4What the material counts

The community numbers below put Seedance at the top of the model names read in the subreddit collected for this column, and pair it against Wan often enough to have its own line. The pairing is usually framed as open weights against a closed commercial line, which is exactly the distinction the facts above describe.

What the counts cannot do is settle the question, and this register does not pretend otherwise. A share of posts measures what people talk about, not what survives a withdrawal; the weights row above is the one that speaks to the second question.

5What a tier list adds when one side has no list

The pipeline this register reads sells both families on one tier list, with a model and a version against each entry, and starts every new project on Wan 3.0 at 480P. Where a tier is temporarily unavailable it is hidden from the selector rather than offered and refused, and work already made keeps its pixels and its record of which tier made it.

That is the closest thing here to a published answer about continuity, and it applies to the hosted route only. A team holding the weights has a different answer — the copy is theirs — and pays for it in hardware and time. Both are legitimate, and a comparison that prices only the generation is comparing the cheaper half of one route with the whole of the other.

6What each of them publishes about its own ending

What each entry says on its own public page, read 2026-10-13.
EntryWhat its own pages stateRead on
KreaImage, video, 3D and lip-sync models with real-time generation, Nodes workflows and the Krea Agent2026-10-13
PixVersePixVerse models plus many other image and video models; batch creation and off-peak modes2026-10-13
SceneMixer“Wan 3.0 · 480P is the tier every new project starts on.”2026-10-13

Inclusion rule. Rows are the entries this page is about, each read on its own page, plus the pipeline this register reads for what happens to a tier when one is withdrawn. A point a page leaves open is written here as left open, not inferred from a menu. Order. Alphabetical by entry name.

Two platforms that carry the families on this page, read on their own pages.
Asked of both platformsPixVerseKrea
What starts a paid planStandard at $8 a month on the yearly plan, 1,200 credits every 30 days, up to 720PFree at 100 units a day, Pro at $21 a month on the yearly plan with 20,000 units a month
What happens to what is not spentThe monthly pool resets every 30 daysOne-time compute packs, valid for 90 days
What the page says it carriesPixVerse models plus many image and video models, with batch creation and off-peak modesImage, video, 3D and lip-sync models with real-time generation and node workflows

Inclusion rule. Answers read from each platform's own public page on 2026-10-13, in that page's own terms. A point a page does not address is written here as not addressed. Order. As the questions are listed above.

7What the material counted

Two lines about the families on this page: how much of the material named Seedance, and the pair the open-weights argument is usually framed as.

Posts and comment mentions for the names on this page, collected 2026-10-14.
NamePostsComment mentionsPositiveNegative
Seedance1666342851114450
Hailuo and MiniMax156445914124

Inclusion rule. Names the collection counted and that this page is about. A post arguing with itself can land in both the positive and the negative column. Order. Descending by posts.

How often two names were argued against each other in the same material.
NameAgainstTimesThe argument in one line
SeedanceWan78open weights against a closed commercial API; the winner changes with the prompt

Inclusion rule. Pairs carried in the collection that name an entry on this page. Order. Descending by the count.

Share of the posts read in one subreddit that name a model family, over the window collected.
Model familyShare of postsPosts counted
Seedance41.0%7416

Inclusion rule. Model families the collection put a share against, counted from the posts it read. Order. Descending by share.

This is terrifying!! Seedance 2.0 just generated a 1-minute film with ZERO editing — the entire film industry

r/generativeAI, collected 2026-10-14

Seedance 4K is insanely expensive, this was $6,000 worth of credits but so worth it! Nexus Ep 2

r/aivideo, collected 2026-10-14

8When the other one is the safer pick

  • You can hold the weights — A released model keeps running as long as the hardware does, whatever happens to anybody's plan page; the cost is moved from a licence to a machine.
  • You want the price per model — fal prices each model it carries individually, which is the only shape here where two licensed families can be compared without a plan's assumptions in the way.
  • You want the models named against the tiers — A list that prints a version beside each tier turns a future swap into something a buyer can see on the page.

Searches like "wan 3.0 vs seedance 2.5" land here, and the material carried the same argument as "Seedance 2.5 vs Wan 3.0 vs MiniMax H3". Next in this column: Seedance 2.5 against MiniMax H3 and Nano Banana Pro.