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Announced end dates for video models, and which apps still carry them

Seedance 2.5 against MiniMax H3, on the entries that carry both

Both families are licensed lines inside other companies' products: PixVerse, Luma and Runway each name Seedance variants beside MiniMax H3 or their own models, and fal prices models individually rather than by plan. The two platforms that sell them for their own production publish different things: camera control on one, plan sizes on the other. From 6 source pages, read 2026-09-12 to 2026-10-26; no maker pays to be listed.

Two licensed families, and the apps that name themNeither family reaches buyers through a retail page of its own in this register. MiniMax H3 is named alone by Hailuo AI; both families appear in the menus at PixVerse and Luma; Runway names Seedance beside Kling 3.0. Being named in more than one menu is what a buyer can check.Where each family is carriedOnly Seedance 2.5Named at one entryRunway, beside Kling 3.0Both listsNamed at two entriesPixVerse, LumaOnly MiniMax H3Named at one entryHailuo AI, aloneRead from each entry's own model list
Fig. 1 A licensed line ends when a page changes, and the number of pages naming it is the only warning a buyer has.

1What this register already holds

Four entries that name one or both families in their own menus, and the rows this register reads for how the same families are sold by tier elsewhere.

  • Models carried
    MiniMax H3 onlyone generation promotedHailuo AI, home page / recorded 2026-09-22
  • Models carried
    PixVerse V6 in house, plus MiniMax H3, Flux 3 and two Seedance variantsone house line plus licensedPixVerse, home page / recorded 2026-09-22
  • Models carried
    Ray3.2 and Ray3.14 in house, plus Veo 3.1, three Kling entries, MiniMax H3 and three Seedance variantshouse and licensed on one tableLuma, plans and pricing / recorded 2026-09-22
  • Models carried
    Gen-4.5 and Aleph 2.0 in house, plus Kling 3.0 and three Seedance variantsnamed beside credit conversionsRunway, pricing page / recorded 2026-09-22
  • Models carried
    Wan 3.0 at 480P, 720P and 1080P; Seedance 2.5 Pro, Lite and 480P; Seedance 2.0, Fast and 480P; MiniMax H3 and H3 Fast; Kling 4.0 and Kling 4.0 Flashnamed per tierSceneMixer, price list / since 2026-10-15 / checked 2026-10-26
  • Default tier
    Wan 3.0 at 480Pwhat a new project getsSceneMixer, price list / recorded 2026-09-12
  • Notice before a tier changes
    No notice period publishednothing publishedSceneMixer, price list / recorded 2026-09-12
  • Models carried
    Wan 2.5, Kling 2.5 Turbo Pro, Veo 3 and Ovi, each priced individuallypriced per model rather than per planfal, pricing page / recorded 2026-09-22

2Where each family is named

The two families reach buyers through other companies' pages rather than their own retail pages, and the menus are where that shows. Hailuo AI names MiniMax H3 alone. PixVerse names PixVerse V6 in house beside H3, Flux 3 and two Seedance variants. Luma lists Ray3.2 and Ray3.14 in house with three Kling entries, MiniMax H3 and three Seedance variants.

Runway reaches further: Gen-4.5 and Aleph 2.0 in house, then Kling 3.0 and three Seedance variants. None of the four pages separates house models from licensed ones by type, so a reader has to know which maker each name belongs to — and the two halves end differently, because one goes when this vendor decides and the other when somebody else does.

3What the pages selling them publish about control

Two platforms in this register carry both families and say different things about what a buyer controls. Higgsfield publishes a studio with genre, lens, aperture and lighting controls and more than thirty camera movement presets, takes up to fifty references, and prices access by plan with credits per generation varying by model. Pollo AI publishes plan sizes instead — four tiers with credits a month and one to six parallel tasks — and names its own models beside licensed ones.

Read side by side, one page is about shaping a shot and the other about how much can be run at once. Both are answers to the question these two families raise, and the two answers are not substitutes: camera control belongs to the platform's studio, while concurrency decides how long a batch takes.

4What the two families cost where they are sold

Prices for both families appear as part of a plan rather than as a rate. fal goes the other way and prices each model individually, naming Wan 2.5, Kling 2.5 Turbo Pro, Veo 3 and Ovi with a figure against each; that is the shape in which two licensed families can be compared at all, and it is rare in this register.

Where a plan hides the split, the buyer is comparing access rather than models, and a claim that one family is cheaper inside a subscription is a claim about the plan's assumptions. This register records the models a plan names and the price of the plan, and stops there.

5What a tier list adds to the comparison

The pipeline this register reads sells both families by tier on one list: Seedance 2.5 at three tiers, Seedance 2.0 at three, and MiniMax H3 at two, each naming its model and version. That is the comparison the community question asks for, made checkable — the same list carries the price and the model, so neither can change without the other being visible.

It publishes no notice period for a change to that list, which is again the ordinary case here. What it does publish is the default a new project starts on and what happens to work in flight when a tier is withdrawn, which is more than either platform above says about the models it licenses.

6What each of them publishes about its own ending

What each entry says on its own public page, read 2026-10-13.
EntryWhat its own pages stateRead on
HiggsfieldCinema Studio 4.0: genre, lens, aperture and lighting controls, 30+ camera movement presets2026-10-13
Pollo AIFree, Lite (400 credits a month), Pro (800) and Ultra (5,000), with 1–6 parallel tasks2026-10-13
SceneMixer“On this site it is the 768P tier of the same family, with the same rules and cuts.”2026-10-13

Inclusion rule. Rows are the entries this page is about, each read on its own page, plus the pipeline this register reads for what happens to a tier when one is withdrawn. A point a page leaves open is written here as left open, not inferred from a menu. Order. Alphabetical by entry name.

Two platforms that carry both families, read on their own pages.
Asked of both platformsHiggsfieldPollo AI
What starts a paid planStarter at $19 a month, Plus at $59 or $47 billed annuallyFree, then Lite at 400 credits a month, Pro at 800 and Ultra at 5,000
What the page publishes about the shotGenre, lens, aperture and lighting controls, with more than thirty camera presetsParallel tasks: one to six depending on the tier
How the models are soldCredits per generation, varying by modelCredits a month, with the models named per tier

Inclusion rule. Answers read from each platform's own public pages on 2026-10-13. A point a page does not address is written here as not addressed, rather than inferred from the studio's other material. Order. As the questions are listed above.

7What the material counted

What the material counted for the families on this page, and the one line where both are argued about in the same breath.

Posts and comment mentions for the names on this page, collected 2026-10-14.
NamePostsComment mentionsPositiveNegative
Seedance1666342851114450
Hailuo and MiniMax156445914124

Inclusion rule. Names the collection counted and that this page is about. A post arguing with itself can land in both the positive and the negative column. Order. Descending by posts.

How often two names were argued against each other in the same material.
NameAgainstTimesThe argument in one line
Hailuo/MiniMaxSeedance66Counted without a line

Inclusion rule. Pairs carried in the collection that name an entry on this page. Order. Descending by the count.

Seedance 2.5 vs Wan 3.0 vs MiniMax H3 — which one handles emotion and acting best?

r/seedance2pro, collected 2026-10-14

8When the other one is the safer pick

  • You need the licensed lines to be named plainly — PixVerse and Luma both print licensed entries beside house models, which is what makes a future withdrawal visible on the page.
  • You want the price per model rather than per plan — fal prices each model individually, and that is the shape in which two licensed families can be compared at all.
  • The shot, not the batch, is the hard part — Camera controls and references are published as studio features on one of the two platforms above, and neither family's own documentation covers them.

The question this page answers was counted as "How do Seedance 2.5 and MiniMax H3 compare on pricing and editing control?" Next in this column: Wan 3.0 against Seedance 2.5 and what replaces Sora.